Ok, so my first ever tournament is coming up. It's a 1750 shindig at my local store. I am way excited to get out and play some "competitive" 40k. Who knows what the actual competition will be like, I'll likely get crushed. But no matter, it'll be a fun time to at least get out and play some games.
Point of the post really is to get some input on my lists. I have two that I would like to run. One is borrowed mostly from another site, and the other is a list I made up myself. I'd like input on both of them. Which list I should run, what changes to make if any. Any comments or criticism are welcome.
List 1:
Librarian-Plasma pistol, Null zone and Gate of Infinity
Rifleman dread x3-2x twin linked autocannons
Dakka pred x3-Autocannon and heavy bolter sponsons
5 man tactical squad with Razorback w/ Lascannon and twin linked plasma gun x4
Attack bike squad w/ 3 bikes w/ multi-meltas
Landspeeder w/ heavy bolter and typhoon missile launcher x2
So that is some serious long-range firepower. It looks like a great list on paper, but I dont know how well the razorbacks will do. It's much too easy to pop armor 11. But I think the list will put out loads of wounds to force saves and take out light armor pretty easily. This is the borrowed list by the way. My lists certainly don't look that strong on paper.
List 2:
Corbulo
Death Company Furioso Dreadnoughtx2-venerable, melta, heavy flamer
Death Company marine x2 w/ rhino
Baal Predator x3-twin linked assault cannon w/ heavy bolter sponsons
Tactical Squad x2-Flamer and lascannon w/ razorbacks w/ twin linked lascannons
Attack bike squad x2- 2 bikes w/ multimeltas
Landspeeder Squadron- 2 speeders w/ heavy flamers and multi-meltas
This list still has lots of shooty, but the Furioso dreads are there for some close combat love. They work pretty well in tandem with Corbulo.
So I just can't decide which army to take. I want to stay true to my Blood Angels, but I don't want to be gimped in the tournament by a sub-par codex. So please, please chime in with your ideas on which list to take and how to improve it.
I'd be ever so grateful.
Tuesday, January 12, 2010
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I'm not a fan of either list. Neither one has enough scoring units for my taste. Of the two, I would go with the second one.
ReplyDeleteI dare to disagree and would go with the first list since you say you want to stick with BA.You will find the razorback making their points back because of the fact, that they can hide your troops. If you fear that your opponent might sluaghter you in a firefight- keep them in reserves.
ReplyDeleteThe list is shurely not the killer, but should not be trashed easily.
Have fun and good luck (i am also going to a tourney that weekend)
CF
I would go with the second list, but run the tac squads full ten man each split up into combat squads, drop the lascannon and replace it with a heavy bolter or missle launcher.
ReplyDeleteYou can never go wrong with maximizing melta due to the increased interest mechanized lists that appear. Also with the liberal occurrence of cover saves, consider taking as many flamers as possible and just try and get in their grill ASAP.
Thanks for the comments guys, I appreciate it.
ReplyDeleteAs far as scoring units, there are four in each list. Granted they are five man squads, but it is 1750 pts.
I just dont know how to fit more troops in and maintain adequate firepower. Sure, scoring units are necessary, but I prefer the approach that if your army is dead, I don't need any objectives. I'll need to pop mech armies reliably, including land raiders, because the shop is marine heavy.
But thanks for the input, I'll see if any adjustments can be made. Also, my collection of models can be a limiting factor, lol.
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ReplyDeleteI think both lists have potential and disadvantages:
Do you want to sit back and shoot? Then the first list is for you. It is a great list against all except marines with lots of long range fire power… and against a really fast assault army.
Librarian-Plasma pistol, Null zone and Gate of Infinity:
I personally hate randomness so Gate of Infinity gives me some hesitation but it can be a game winner (or loser if it fails).
Rifleman dread x3-2x twin linked autocannons:
Twin-Linked Lascannons will do better – AP2 Str 9 weapons that re-roll misses are essential against all but the best armor (14) and terminators (you will be playing marine armies)
Dakka pred x3-Autocannon and heavy bolter sponsons:
Baal Predators will do more for you here – shorter range on the Assault Cannons but overall considerably better against troops and armor
5 man tactical squad with Razorback w/ Lascannon and twin linked plasma gun x4:
4 Five man units are great for objectives – agreed – kill the other army and you will be fine. You have no close combat so will suffer in this area.
Attack bike squad w/ 3 bikes w/ multi-meltas
This is a good fast unit but has little moving with it so becomes a high priority target. Without support it has little chance,
Landspeeder w/ heavy bolter and typhoon missile launcher x2
Great for long distance shootyness and objective deniers – I love these but usually use one of these and then one with Multi-Melta and optional flamer.
Second List:
I like this list better especially because it fits more in-line with the Blood Angel method of getting close and personal.
Corbulo:
Good abilities. I don’t have army builder at work so cannot completely asses…
Death Company Furioso Dreadnoughtx2-venerable, melta, heavy flamer
I hate these guys (which means that they do well for Blood Angels). Take ‘em – especially in tandem. (Hvy Armor right?)
Death Company marine x2 w/ rhino
Where is your assault squad? You can’t assult out of Rhino’s and where does Corbulo sit? He needs to be assaulting with his squad (I recommend a land raider for this – not sure what models you have). Better to have three squads with a raider than 4 that don’t do any very well or with a purpose.
Baal Predator x3-twin linked assault cannon w/ heavy bolter sponsons
Nice – maybe find points for Land Raider by losing one of these plus something else – these don’t take objectives and they die easier
Tactical Squad x2-Flamer and lascannon w/ razorbacks w/ twin linked lascannons:
Good objective holders – best setup for them
Attack bike squad x2- 2 bikes w/ multimeltas:
With the speeders you give multple targets - they should live longer and cause your enemy pain...
Landspeeder Squadron- 2 speeders w/ heavy flamers and multi-meltas:
Again, I like one of each speeder to give you options for long range and close range
Lot’s of info and opinions I know – but you asked :)
How did you torunament go? I placed 2nd overall with m fluff guard- feel free to take a look at the report on my blog.
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